Technology Decision Makers

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A group for those in nonprofit IT decision-making roles to connect with peers and share best practices. This Technology Decision Makers group is for nonprofit IT or MIS Directors/Managers as well as CIOs and CTOs to connect with their peers and share best practices. Topics for discussion include, but are not limited to: hardware and software management, product reviews, emerging technology, best practices, collaborating effectively with other departments, and management conundrums. Membership is restricted to IT staff at nonprofit organizations.

Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

  • 1.  Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 24 days ago
    Five of my colleagues are interested in signing up for an E-signature platform.   I'm very interested in hearing about your experiences with  Adobe sign and Docusign.  



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    Patrick Jean
    IT Manager
    New York, NY
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  • 2.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 21 days ago
    I've just started an evaluation of esignature solutions, so cannot comment specifically on any of them since we are not yet using one, but I am leaning toward Eversign over those two. Feature set seems to fit our needs, at a lower price.




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    Geoffrey Pimlatt
    Senior Manager, Information Systems
    London, ON
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  • 3.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 21 days ago
    Hi Patrick,

    What are the use cases that have led you to decide to acquire your own "standalone" esignature application?

    The answer is typically not as obvious as it may seem.

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    K. Howard Enterprise Solutions LLC
    Kyle O'Donnell
    President
    973-866-7366
    kyle@khesolutions.com
    www.ademero.com

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  • 4.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 12 days ago
    Consultant Contractors!  Our 60 staff organizations are all working but we still need a way to process consultant contracts.

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    Patrick Jean
    IT Manager
    New York, NY
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  • 5.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 20 days ago
    We used echosign for years (even though docusign was using a Drupal theme we built) but since it's converted to echosign pricing is higher and sign in is more awkward.

    https://www.pandadoc.com/free-electronic-signature-software/ has a free e-sign option and we're thinking about converting over to that.

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    Andrew Mallis
    CEO & founder @ www.kalamuna.com
    Oakland, CA
    mallis@kalamuna.com
    925-255-5204 x700
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  • 6.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 20 days ago
    @Andrew Mallis are you considering their "standalone" free esignature solution? Or switching to their business/enterprise edition?

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    K. Howard Enterprise Solutions LLC
    Kyle O'Donnell
    President
    973-866-7366
    kyle@khesolutions.com
    www.ademero.com

    2019 NTENny Awardee
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  • 7.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 12 days ago
    We got an offer for the Business pro witch offers all licenses for our staff 60 but only 500 sends per year.

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    Patrick Jean
    IT Manager
    New York, NY
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  • 8.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 19 days ago
    We used Panda doc years ago and it worked well.
    Currently we are using DocUsign but it is expensive.

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    JOHN JORDAN
    General Manager
    Support  866.567.2273
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    BetterWorld Technology
    www.betterworldtechnology.com
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  • 9.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 19 days ago
    @John Jordan why the switch to the more expensive docusign if panda doc ​was working well?

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    K. Howard Enterprise Solutions LLC
    Kyle O'Donnell
    President
    973-866-7366
    kyle@khesolutions.com
    www.ademero.com

    2019 NTENny Awardee
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  • 10.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 17 days ago

    I've recently performed an extensive, not quite exhaustive, analysis of all the eSignature platforms.  While I haven't used them in a day-to-day setting, I have a solid sense of how they stack up. 

     

    As always, which system will work best for you depends on the complexity of the workflows you are trying to automate, and how much integration you need to other systems.  There are so many options out there, and almost all of them are cheaper than DocuSign in most circumstances.   But it depends on factors like:

     

    • Do you have many people sending a few documents (then unlimited users pricing model is better), or do you have a few people sending hundreds of documents a month (then per user model is better).  DocuSign's pricing model can be affordable for the "few documents but lots of users" model, especially if you need some of the more advanced features (conditional logic, etc.).
    • Do you need integration with Salesforce, or want SSO?  If yes, then affordable options like Eversign are out.
    • Do you need integrations with Power Automate (formerly O365 Flow)?  Then Adobe Sign is your best option.
    • The more affordable options tend to not offer complex signing workflows such as allowing three people to sign a document in parallel in any order, and only once all have signed, then sending it along to a final fourth  person.
    • Do you need Bulk Send where one document is sent to hundreds of people at once?  That usually puts you at least into the "Pro" category of pricing, and usually Enterprise.  But a few of the systems offer it without getting into Enterprise pricing, so that would be a differentiator.
    • One of the biggest differentiators is whether you need advanced department management where dept. managers can see all the documents sent by staff in their group, but not in other depts.  OneSpan Sign costs 1/3 of DocuSign with most of its features, but its group management feature is a bit klunky (but they are fixing it soon) because it requires creating a second account for the same person if you want to put them in HR and in Finance group for example.  But OneSpan would be far cheaper if you can live with waiting for better user management which is coming soon.

     

    Adobe sign is a super slick system, with deep integration with Microsoft 365 (including Teams), and is more affordable than DocuSign.  It seems to match it pound for pound, with better pricing. It also comes with a workflow tool that DocuSign can't match unless you get into their contract management tool, which makes DocuSign even more expense.  But, the workflow tool for Adobe requires a license for each user, and that gets expensive.

     

    If you need to create a bunch of workflows for intra-office, self-initiated signing and or approvals processes, then one of the most impressive systems out there is airSlate (which comes with their signNow tool).  You can even put self-initiated links on a public website for constituents to initiate form-signing processes.  In that way, you can have thousands of esign or general "approval-required" processes without paying per Send.  They are building out connectors to many systems and databases (already have MySQL, and MS SQL should be released this year), so it can almost serve as a light ETL tool. AirSlate requires 10 user minimum, which comes out to $5400 a year for nonprofits, but it would allow you to self-initiate thousands of approval processes that would cost 3 times as much is DocuSign.

     

    For more affordable systems if you don't need the most advanced features, look at HelloSign (25% nonprofit discount).  PandaDoc is very good system, but gets pricey if you need many user accounts.

     

    Each system has its strengths and weaknesses.  Hopefully that helps provide some differentiators for you to consider.

     

    Dan

     

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    dan shenk-evans, senior consultant 
    build consulting | 
    transforming nonprofits

    office (202) 808-3076 x 707

    buildconsulting.com  @buildconsulting 

     




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  • 11.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 10 days ago
    The the way, I was just introduced to a very affordable solution that still has almost all the features of the more well know systems: SignRequest.  If money is really tight, it seems to be a very solid solution.  Not as polished as the leaders, but close enough that it likely doesn't matter in many organizations, as it gets the job done.

    Dan

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    Dan Shenk-Evans
    Senior Consultant
    Washington DC

    dan.shenk-evans@buildconsulting.com
    (202) 321-0933
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  • 12.  RE: Adobe Sign vs DocuSign

    Posted 7 days ago
    DocHub (dochub.com) is also pretty good. Unlike some of the other platforms which lock editing, here you can collaborate on filling out forms.

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    Andrew Mallis
    CEO & founder @ www.kalamuna.com
    Oakland, CA
    mallis@kalamuna.com
    925-255-5204 x700
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