A few colleagues are interested in starting a podcast, and I'm looking for advice from others who have done this. How did you build your audience? How much production time is involved? Was this a good investment of time/resources for your organization?
I've been podcasting 6 years as Tony Martignetti Nonprofit Radio. Friday is our 300th show. I do it to help small- and mid-size nonprofits, not as a nonprofit. I (now "we" for the awesome team helping me), built audience with valuable, smart content that's targeted to our audience and building presence in the social networks, primarily Twitter and FB. I personally spend 3 hours for each studio hour, so 4 hours weekly. We have a terrific social media manager spending several hours weekly and I have a smart tech guy getting the podcast version seen by iTunes (from podcast.mpgadv.com). This has been an outstanding investment. But, ahead of that, it's great fun! I love doing the show. And the feedback proves we're helping our listeners' orgs!
Good luck! T.
Lots of good (and big!) questions here, and of course there are many ways to approach it. I will share my own experience and let others chime in if they have different experiences to share.
My first question is always how this would support your mission. For Reformed Church in America I can imagine several ways, but it may be less clear for other organizations. Regardless, the people involved should be clear and in agreement about why you'd be doing a podcast, and what the goals are.
Because it's a lot of work! If you are going to invest this kind of time then you want it to have an impact. Or, you want to be able to say with confidence that it isn't doing what you hoped, and go a different route.
As I was gearing up to start my podcast, I didn't do a good job of tracking my "planning" time. I know that it took me a solid year, but I did a lot of foot-dragging during that time. The planning stage could certainly be condensed. As for actual production now that the show is up and running -- looking at my timesheet, I can see that I spend around 6-8 hours on each episode. That includes outlining and researching, writing the talking points, recording, editing, writing show notes, publishing, and promoting each episode. I have chosen to do everything myself, but many organizations have a few people involved, and there are parts (especially the editing) that can be outsourced. So that could change the equation. Also the longer your episodes, the more production time/cost is involved, so that is another variable. My episodes around 20 minutes each, as a point of reference.
I have been building my audience very slowly. I started with the relationships I already had, basically telling everyone I know, and talking about it on Twitter. Others hear about it by word of mouth, and of course there are those who find it via a random search or some non-personal way simply because it comes up in a search result, but these are relatively few I think (at least so far, for me).
In the long run, I hope that more people will find my show through it coming up in related content searches. That was why I started it -- content strategy for a person who is much more comfortable talking than writing. :)
But frankly, it's too soon to tell. Everyone I know who has done a podcast (including fully professional podcasters) agrees that it takes a while to ramp up. So you need to do it for at least 6 months or so before you can confidently assess whether it is meeting your goals. That adds up to a pretty big investment of time for an organization.
I don't say this to deter you in any way! I for one want to see more nonprofits podcasting, and as I said, I can see how it would fit neatly with RCA's mission.
Also, I know that 17NTC is 7 months away and your particular timeline may be shorter... but I'd be remiss not to point out that several podcasting-related sessions have been proposed. Please vote for one or more of them if you'd like to see a session on this!http://www.nten.org/proposals/?do=show-all-submissions&submission-keywords=podcast&submission-category=
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You might also check out this online resource. They offer tips on format, as well as production needs.
We're a few steps in front of you--let me know if I can help answer questions based on our journey.
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